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223. Rethinking Carbon: An Enlightening Conversation with Paul Hawken
In this episode of the Good Dirt Podcast, hosts Emma and Mary return from winter break with a special interview featuring repeat guest Paul Hawken, the acclaimed environmentalist, author, and activist. They discuss Hawken's new book, 'Carbon, the Book of Life,' which explores the multifaceted role of carbon in our universe, challenging the prevailing view of carbon as merely a climatic culprit. Hawken shares his profound insights on the interconnectedness of all life and how shifting our perception of carbon can foster a deeper understanding of our relationship with where we live. Key themes include the limitations of current climate messaging, the emotional and intellectual journey of understanding carbon, and the need for a holistic approach to resolving environmental crises.
📖 Preorder Carbon:The Book of Life → Click here (Available in the U.S. on March 18, 2025)
00:00 Introduction to Carbon and Climate Messaging
01:50 Welcome Back to Good Dirt Podcast
03:56 Introducing Paul Hawken and His New Book
06:29 Paul Hawken on the Inspiration Behind His Work
07:37 The Role of Carbon in Climate Change
12:48 Challenges in Climate Messaging
17:21 The Interconnectedness of Life and Carbon
24:06 Stories of Connection in the Natural World
29:29 Elephant Mourning Rituals
29:45 The Intelligence of Animals
30:20 Understanding Our Place in the World
31:41 The Interconnectedness of Trees
33:33 Indigenous Knowledge and Environmental Awareness
35:59 The Role of Science in Rediscovering Nature
46:35 AI and Environmental Impact
54:01 The Importance of Grief and Heartbreak
01:00:48 Final Thoughts and Reflections
Books/Articles
Bill McKibben/ Global Warming's Terrifying New Math
Lawrence Anthony/ The Elephant Whisperer
Frans De Waal/ Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are?
Karen Bakker/ The Sounds of Life
Zoe Schlanger/ The Light Eaters
Suzanne Simard/ Finding the Mother Tree
Dara McAnulty/ Diary of a Young Naturalist
Ed Conway/ Material World
📖 Preorder Carbon: The Book of Life → Click here (Available in the U.S. on March 18, 2025)
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🔗 Website: paulhawken.com
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